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The one good thing Obama has done. (Yes, there is such a thing)

I enjoy discussing politics with people who have different ideas than I. Actually, I enjoy it alot. What I do not enjoy is being screamed at simply because I hold different views than someone else. Engage in a conversation with a person on the left about beliefs, and you’ve got a pretty good chance of being the target of an irrational hatred-spurned rant. Because of this, I have avoided such discussions with leftists in the past, meaning that I probably missed many interesting, and perhaps even enlightening discussions with rational people on the left over the years.

But things have changed.

When Obama surfaced, he embodied everything wrong with the left so succinctly it was almost surreal. It was hard to believe such a perfect embodiment of so many bad ideas existed in human form. And it was only a matter of time before hordes of idiots (see: Obama Supporters) rose up to follow him.

But there were many rational liberals and left leaning moderates who weren’t fooled by him. The more they saw of him, the less they liked him. Some of them were big Hillary fans, others were just so repelled by Obama that they didn’t care who became president in ’08 – so long as it wasn’t him – and Hillary offered them a channel for that desire.

So now when I meet a Democrat or somone who simply has a left of the center ideology, I merely need to ask who they’re supporting before I know if they’re rational or not. Sometimes, all I need to see is a “Hillary ’08” button.

The Obama Supporters I have encountered have (with only two exceptions) been rude, ignorant, angry, hateful, arrogant, and generally incapable of forming original thoughts – instead defaulting on the most recent talking points of the Obama campaign.

The Hillary supporters I have encountered (with only one exception) have been polite even when in complete disagreement, honest, forthright, and many times quite insightful.

And I have encountered many from both camps. It’s amazing how effective Obama has been at completely filtering the left into two distinct camps: the rational and the irrational.

I know who my allies are across the spectrum, thanks to Obama, and while we may disagree on many things, we both love America and don’t want to see her fail.

Categories: Obama, Obama Supporters
  1. August 17, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    Thanks so much for this post. I am a left of center moderate clinton supporter. I am still shocked at how rude and stupid so many Obama people are.

  2. August 17, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    I’ve observed the same phenomenon. The Hillarysupporters definitely represent the thinking portion of the Democratic Party.

  3. August 18, 2008 at 12:23 am

    Good point. I am actually one of those liberals you normally would have nothing in common with. I came to support Hillary as a result of the obscene push for Obama by the media and the DNC – to the point of messing up the election.
    Not sure if I might vote for McCain now – but we agree on this: Obama getting more power is the single most dangerous thing that can happen to this country. Not because he is a liberal – he actually believes in nothing – he is a consummate opportunist with a desire to accumulate unchecked power.
    So, back to that good thing you said Obama did : he became indeed a Uniter. – B0bots vs the sober people.

  4. redmanrt
    August 18, 2008 at 3:01 am

    How could a rational person support either a charlatan like Obama or a criminal like Hillary?

  5. zacharytaylor
    August 18, 2008 at 4:38 am

    There has been a low-level war going on for some time in the Democratic Party between the descendents of the radical New Left on both coasts against working class Democrats who would like more government regulation of industry and love their country. This election has been different because the New Left style Democrat won, and is trying to transform the party into their image.

    The upside is that by running openly as a New Leftist, Obama has put his ideas out for popular scrutiny. If he loses, we might acheive something that most Americans on the left and right want: the return of a Democratic Party that loves America, puts the country’s interest above political expediency, and sees Americans as one people, united by more than divides us, with a common mission and common destiny in this world.

  6. Charles F. Ellis
    August 18, 2008 at 5:08 am







  7. misanthropicus
    August 18, 2008 at 6:25 am

    Unfortunately liberals & left-wingers are generally people animated by impulses & supersitions, not by beliefs or convictions acquired through observation, reading or life experience. Their vocabulary & plans proves this – just slogans which do not withstand common sense or any form of intelligent scrutiny.
    As far as Obama, his following reminds an exalted sect – I am not the only one who expects James Jones-type of suicides after him losing the election.

  8. shampoovta
    August 18, 2008 at 7:48 am

    LOL I must be the one Hillary supporter who you found to be rude ( J/K). Cussing is like a second language to me and I did not need Rosetta Stone® to learn it.

    Bush made me cures allot but Obama eclipses any disgust I had for the Republicans. I guess I am just a raciest, LOL.

    I agree he is the embodiment of every thing that is to far left to me. That is just not my Democratic party any more.

    I have had a real problem with him ever sense he plagiarized that ” just words” speech. That is just not don. It shows a real lack of morals to me.

    “Just words” was only the beginning of a stunning lack of character. The Obama supporters that I encountered early on in digg. com were the same bozos who had an undying love for Apple and Nintendo. It is a full on fan boy attitude. If you ever were in to comics or movies like Star Wars you know what I talking about. We are not electing a tech guru or a superhero so this attitude is not appropriate for politics. The more screw ups Obama made and the more we learned about his past and his associations the more Kool Aid they drank until I was having flash backs to sifi books I read as a kid like ” Brave new world”. This was it,.. the test. This is what they had warned us about in so many sifi stories. This is not a test you can fail.

    No Soma for me, I am John Savage and I lay claim the right to be unhopeful

  9. Iago
    August 18, 2008 at 11:00 am

    Zachary T –

    Point well taken. The leadership of the Democratic Party now includes exactly one Scoop Jackson/Hubert Humphrey style pol, Joe Lieberman. But despite the capture of the leadership by the Far Left, many in the party are not overt Marxists, and this is the source of the conflict you describe.

    In fact, the Marxist wing has nominated presidential candidates before: McGovern, Dukakis, Mondale, Gore, and Kerry. But the only two Democrats elected to the presidency in the last forty years had the least Leftist ideological baggage, Carter and Clinton.

    It is not that Hillary is not a Marxist, she is, but she takes pains to conceal her far-Left orientation. Given a choice between Hillary and Obama, the Soros machine, the Kennedy machine, the Chicago machine, and the DNC agreed early-on that Obama was the candidate. Hillary was carrying too much corruption baggage, and time was short for these old men to change the world for Marxism. Hillary had to go, but it was not a well-thought-out decision.

    Given the universal rejection of Marxist candidates for the presidency of the United States, I can confidently predict that Obama will suffer a crushing defeat, based just on the fact that he is the farthest-Left candidate ever to present himself for president. Anybody want to bet on this proposition?

  10. MMiller
    August 18, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    Hey John, I am a very happy APPLE user…and an ardent Hillary Clinton supporter. I am also one of the few who recognized BHO’s lies and waffling on issues very early. I believe he is a very bad reflection on what being African American stands for..he leads those African Americans who sell drugs to each other to control minds out of fear. He is one of the African Americans who blame others..for all of the social ills that come forward when education follows behind drug use. He is one of the African Americans who fight each other because a darker skin tone exists..He is one of those African Americans who is bitter about lost oppoertunity because he did not stand up for the Jenna 6..he felt helping those boys would color him black versus ‘someone who transends color’..I believe he is one of those African Americans who is angry because another person aced school and landed the job, what ever it is. This anger towards whites did not come from whites..it came from African Americans who refused to stand up with Martin Luther King to ‘earn’ their way like the millions of immigrants who came to the United States after WW2 and took the worst jobs so their children could be educated not drugged. They stayed with their families..didn’t abandon them to a welfare state and end up in prison.
    Yes there are noteworthy wonderful people who are African American..Mr. Otis, Mr. Hoover, Colin Powell and millions of others..then there are people like Ludicris, Reverend Wright, the Mayor of Detroit, Farrackhan and Barak Obama who are always trying to reap their ‘reward’ by side stepping and short changing their fellow African Americans who make money and leave the poor black drug addicted children, their mothers and get out of the ghetto as fast as they can with out looking back. Look at Obama’s district in Chicago as an illistration point. He gave his rich benefactor Rezko contracts for 100 million dollars..hung out at the Four Seasons eating with him and his other benefactors and left those poor people freezing.
    Obama is a disgrace.

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